Counting beats

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    Zixi Howard
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    I suppose this is related to my earlier post about rhythm. I wonder how to keep time or count beats and would be interested in hearing people’s solutions. I’ve found counting almost impossible to do and I now use a mixture of counting, words and sounds. I’m wondering if something like Kodaly (ta ti etc etc) would be useful and if anyone has tried it?

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    jeffrey armbruster
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    I count. I use the “one and..” system of counting, where the ‘and’ marks an 8th note. then count “one-e-and-a-Two-e-and-a..” etc. for marking 16th notes.

    I’m just learning the recorder; worse, both alto and soprano. so the fingerings are still coming to me. That makes counting while playing difficult! On the guitar I resort to counting out loud through a difficult passage; not possible with a recorder! But this will soon pass…

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    Zixi Howard
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    I’ve only just seen this – I hope you come back because I think this is an interesting discussion! I can’t count for more than a couple of notes when I’m playing recorder. I tried playing keyboard for a short time and I had no problems counting aloud and playing that! I’m using a version of Kodaly now – ta, ti-ti etc etc and this works well for notes I want to tongue with a ‘t’. I’m pretty sure I’ll learn to fudge it for other sounds or by then it will be so natural that I won’t have to consciously count… Yes, I’m an optimist!

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    jeffrey armbruster
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    Oh, Kodaly huh? I’ll look that up.Possibly being able to tongue the count while playing will work–I’m away from my recorder now so I can’t try it. I suppose you could articulate any passage with your tongue saying ‘t’ to learn the phrasing, and then go on to voice it how you’d like.

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    Zixi Howard
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    I don’t know how close to Kodaly the method I’m using is but so far it seems to work. It seems easy to tongue and mentally say ta, ti-ti etc that to tongue and say one and two etc etc…

    Yes, I’m hoping that once I get the hang of keeping a steady beat I won’t have to consciously say ta etc and I’ll be able to do what you say – voice any sound I want! I think it’s interesting that neither of us have problems counting when it isn’t a wind instrument. I wonder if that’s typical?

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